Gül urges democratic beginning
calls by Prime Minister Erdogan and Turkish President Gül now a new democratic beginning in the Kurdish language policy and Surprisingly against banning organizations from: "With no further prohibited to get there."
In Turkey, cases are pending to ban the Democratic Party of Kurdistan as "PKK allies."
Thursday, November 29, 2007
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dialogue or armed struggle? 2
Anonymous User wrote on 29.11.2007 18:42 clock: "Why is the forum not headline dialogue Bewaffnetder fight."
Answer: Both versions contain would be possible, however, have its pitfalls, because dialogue includes military is not and vice versa Military should not rule out the dialogue.
at the Military I make the claim, that it is not a matter of justice, but is subordinated to the law, a law which is democratic legitimacy and human rights.
to such legitimacy is lacking on the part of the PKK's actions, but also on the part of the actions of the Turkish military.
to the dialogue I present the claim that he is not exhausted by propaganda, but negotiated the mutual interests.
Since the Turkish military and the PKK are under no democratic legitimacy would be the negotiations while not insignificant, but the actual negotiation obligation rests with the Turkish government and Kurdish opposition parties. As long as those most responsible
their bargaining obligations not comply, leave it to the "armed struggle" and the Militrärischen the political initiative. - And that's wrong.
-msr-
Anonymous User wrote on 29.11.2007 18:42 clock: "Why is the forum not headline dialogue Bewaffnetder fight."
Answer: Both versions contain would be possible, however, have its pitfalls, because dialogue includes military is not and vice versa Military should not rule out the dialogue.
at the Military I make the claim, that it is not a matter of justice, but is subordinated to the law, a law which is democratic legitimacy and human rights.
to such legitimacy is lacking on the part of the PKK's actions, but also on the part of the actions of the Turkish military.
to the dialogue I present the claim that he is not exhausted by propaganda, but negotiated the mutual interests.
Since the Turkish military and the PKK are under no democratic legitimacy would be the negotiations while not insignificant, but the actual negotiation obligation rests with the Turkish government and Kurdish opposition parties. As long as those most responsible
their bargaining obligations not comply, leave it to the "armed struggle" and the Militrärischen the political initiative. - And that's wrong.
-msr-
Saturday, November 24, 2007
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Erdogan: "More rights for Kurds"
The Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan spoke out at a meeting of the ACP for more rights for the Kurdish minority in Turkey. Alone democracy, pluralism and a liberal climate is "enemy of violence and terrorism," extremists evade the ground.
msr>> discussion
The Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan spoke out at a meeting of the ACP for more rights for the Kurdish minority in Turkey. Alone democracy, pluralism and a liberal climate is "enemy of violence and terrorism," extremists evade the ground.
msr>> discussion
Thursday, November 22, 2007
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Anonymous User wrote on 21.11.2007 22:24 clock: "And why is not it time the Turks a genocide in Armenia were? "
false, because many Turks think differently about it long ago as the official Turkey. If you is situated just because you with" want to insult you Turks " , then you deny the historical truth that Kurds in the Armenian genocide does their part, because they result in benefits for Kurds speculated.
from the corpses of the story is no life. And certainly not when they exploited a person for more wars.
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Anonymous User wrote on 21.11.2007 22:24 clock: "And why is not it time the Turks a genocide in Armenia were? "
false, because many Turks think differently about it long ago as the official Turkey. If you is situated just because you with" want to insult you Turks " , then you deny the historical truth that Kurds in the Armenian genocide does their part, because they result in benefits for Kurds speculated.
from the corpses of the story is no life. And certainly not when they exploited a person for more wars.
Mark Rabago>> discussion
Wednesday, November 21, 2007
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dialogue or armed struggle?
Anonymous User wrote on 21.11.2007 10:50 clock: "neither has the U.S. nor the Nocht eu the un is a shit care about what happens to the Kurds'
such lies to tell the people to justify vigilantism and PKK. Instead, it was for the Kurds, despite NATO membership for Turkey and the permanent . criticism is always right to asylum for politically persecuted Kurds in all States of the EC and later the EU
You seem to be the howling of Turkish nationalists not to hear that tell exactly the extreme opposite nonsense: World and European Union were enemies of Turkey
quote. " only when the PKK was founded ... was the European public's attention what is going on in Kurdistan "
wrong, because with this kind of "attention" hurt the PKK of international solidarity with the Kurds. The acquisition of "attention" of terrorism is now time only concept of terrorists and gunmen.
Quote: "and thousands of people, not only Kurds, but people who have seen the injustices Turks, Arabs, and even German, are on the mountains and fought."
to such international and Al Qaeda is proud of, but close to the international nature of the idiocy that it is not idiocy is idiocy.
Quote: "only after tens of thousands of Kurds went to Europe to the streets ... "
leaves with demonstrations, however, but rather the attention and solidarity to achieve that it needs. This, however, also depends on how democratic is a demonstration, because if they Öcalan posters and hate speech occurs, then it may well the demonstrators to be an "event fine," but those to whom they show themselves, do not.
-msr->> discussion
Anonymous User wrote on 21.11.2007 10:50 clock: "neither has the U.S. nor the Nocht eu the un is a shit care about what happens to the Kurds'
such lies to tell the people to justify vigilantism and PKK. Instead, it was for the Kurds, despite NATO membership for Turkey and the permanent . criticism is always right to asylum for politically persecuted Kurds in all States of the EC and later the EU
You seem to be the howling of Turkish nationalists not to hear that tell exactly the extreme opposite nonsense: World and European Union were enemies of Turkey
quote. " only when the PKK was founded ... was the European public's attention what is going on in Kurdistan "
wrong, because with this kind of "attention" hurt the PKK of international solidarity with the Kurds. The acquisition of "attention" of terrorism is now time only concept of terrorists and gunmen.
Quote: "and thousands of people, not only Kurds, but people who have seen the injustices Turks, Arabs, and even German, are on the mountains and fought."
to such international and Al Qaeda is proud of, but close to the international nature of the idiocy that it is not idiocy is idiocy.
Quote: "only after tens of thousands of Kurds went to Europe to the streets ... "
leaves with demonstrations, however, but rather the attention and solidarity to achieve that it needs. This, however, also depends on how democratic is a demonstration, because if they Öcalan posters and hate speech occurs, then it may well the demonstrators to be an "event fine," but those to whom they show themselves, do not.
-msr->> discussion
Wednesday, November 14, 2007
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Iraq's Kurdish President sees the end of the conflict closer
CAIRO, 14 November (RIA Novosti). According to the Iraqi President Jalal Talabani is the crisis on the Iraqi-Turkish border "virtually exhausted. The
said Talabani in an interview with the Egyptian newspaper Al-Ahram. "
According to him, the Iraqi delegation was able to convince at the recent conference in Istanbul, the Turkish leadership believes that Baghdad "is in fact against the Kurdish Workers Party (PKK) fighting that are illegal residents in northern Iraq."
"We have agreed to restrict their movement, and forbidden to move from one city to another and to use the airports," said Talabani.
He felt that the meeting between Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan and U.S. President George W. Bush on 5 November makes it possible to reduce tensions on the Turkish-Iraqi border.
"As I believe there is no danger of a Turkish invasion of Kurdistan more," concluded the Iraqi president.
The Turkish parliament adopted the government granted in mid-October a one-year mandate for cross-border military operation, where, according to the army were some 3,500 PKK fighters concentrated.
The conflict with the PKK, which leads an armed struggle for independence since 1984, has been around 40 000 people lost their lives. The Turkish authorities are categorically refusing to hold dialogue with the separatists would use violence and the Put an end to PKK.
Turkey has pulled together a 100 000 strong force on the border with northern Iraq. The television stations NTV and CNN-Turk, according to the Turkish Air Force in the early hours of Tuesday (at 2:00 clock time) Kurdish fighters in northern Iraq border area attacked.
CAIRO, 14 November (RIA Novosti). According to the Iraqi President Jalal Talabani is the crisis on the Iraqi-Turkish border "virtually exhausted. The
said Talabani in an interview with the Egyptian newspaper Al-Ahram. "
According to him, the Iraqi delegation was able to convince at the recent conference in Istanbul, the Turkish leadership believes that Baghdad "is in fact against the Kurdish Workers Party (PKK) fighting that are illegal residents in northern Iraq."
"We have agreed to restrict their movement, and forbidden to move from one city to another and to use the airports," said Talabani.
He felt that the meeting between Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan and U.S. President George W. Bush on 5 November makes it possible to reduce tensions on the Turkish-Iraqi border.
"As I believe there is no danger of a Turkish invasion of Kurdistan more," concluded the Iraqi president.
The Turkish parliament adopted the government granted in mid-October a one-year mandate for cross-border military operation, where, according to the army were some 3,500 PKK fighters concentrated.
The conflict with the PKK, which leads an armed struggle for independence since 1984, has been around 40 000 people lost their lives. The Turkish authorities are categorically refusing to hold dialogue with the separatists would use violence and the Put an end to PKK.
Turkey has pulled together a 100 000 strong force on the border with northern Iraq. The television stations NTV and CNN-Turk, according to the Turkish Air Force in the early hours of Tuesday (at 2:00 clock time) Kurdish fighters in northern Iraq border area attacked.
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U.S. and Turkey agreed exchange of secret information is about Kurdish separatists
ANKARA, 13 November (RIA Novosti). The United States and Turkey share since (today) Wednesday intelligence information on the separatist Kurdistan Workers' Party of.
informed the Turkish Foreign Minister Ali Babacan to reporters in Ankara. "We started with the correct and timely work for the exchange of secret information," Babacan was on NTV television Sener cited.
An agreement on exchange of intelligence information was at in negotiations between the Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan and U.S. President George W. Bush 5th November in Washington has been achieved. It was agreed the creation of a joint mechanism to counter the Kurdistan Workers Party.
Babacan also said that the government will exercise its mandate to Durchfühurng a cross-border operation against Kurdish militants in northern Iraq "at the right time" use. Such operations had been approved in mid-October, the Turkish Parliament.
Turkish mass media reported Wednesday, citing relevant statements Erdogan, the Turkish military operation in neighboring Iraq could begin in this month.
The Turkish Chief of General Staff Yasar Buyukanit had told journalists in Ankara in the previous week that the Defense Department, the operation had already prepared and waiting until the government give the green light. In the southeast of Turkey is currently up to 100 000 soldiers are stationed.
mid-October, the Turkish Parliament had approved the state government Militärinvastion in neighboring Iraq, where, according to the military are active up to 3500 extremists from the Kurdistan Workers Party.
The conflict with the Labour Party, which since 1984 on the autonomy of the Kurds a Part of Turkish territory were struggling, so far nearly 40 000 people died. The Turkish authorities are categorically refusing to engage in dialogue with the separatists, and want to end the conflict using military force.
ANKARA, 13 November (RIA Novosti). The United States and Turkey share since (today) Wednesday intelligence information on the separatist Kurdistan Workers' Party of.
informed the Turkish Foreign Minister Ali Babacan to reporters in Ankara. "We started with the correct and timely work for the exchange of secret information," Babacan was on NTV television Sener cited.
An agreement on exchange of intelligence information was at in negotiations between the Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan and U.S. President George W. Bush 5th November in Washington has been achieved. It was agreed the creation of a joint mechanism to counter the Kurdistan Workers Party.
Babacan also said that the government will exercise its mandate to Durchfühurng a cross-border operation against Kurdish militants in northern Iraq "at the right time" use. Such operations had been approved in mid-October, the Turkish Parliament.
Turkish mass media reported Wednesday, citing relevant statements Erdogan, the Turkish military operation in neighboring Iraq could begin in this month.
The Turkish Chief of General Staff Yasar Buyukanit had told journalists in Ankara in the previous week that the Defense Department, the operation had already prepared and waiting until the government give the green light. In the southeast of Turkey is currently up to 100 000 soldiers are stationed.
mid-October, the Turkish Parliament had approved the state government Militärinvastion in neighboring Iraq, where, according to the military are active up to 3500 extremists from the Kurdistan Workers Party.
The conflict with the Labour Party, which since 1984 on the autonomy of the Kurds a Part of Turkish territory were struggling, so far nearly 40 000 people died. The Turkish authorities are categorically refusing to engage in dialogue with the separatists, and want to end the conflict using military force.
Wednesday, November 7, 2007
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Bush Erdogan time in conflict with Kurds
WASHINGTON 07 November (Marija Appakowa, RIA Novosti). Could George W. Bush to Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan of a military operation in northern Iraq against Kurdish fighters diverted?
That will be a mystery to the meeting the two leaders on Monday in Washington - most likely not. The main reason is not because Erdogan is in the given situation, a hostage of circumstances. Paradoxically Turkish Prime Minister himself is keen to resolve the situation without extreme measures such as the invasion of troops to Iraq. But if taking the terrorist attacks by the Kurdish Workers Party PKK in Turkey, no end, Erdogan may perhaps have no other choice but to give the signal to the military operation. For the time being but he has time. Among other things, thanks to his negotiations in the United States.
something for history: In October, the Turkish parliament the government a one-year mandate for an operation in the northern Iraqi Kurdish region, where troops have to fight the PKK holed. Meanwhile, the Turkish troops confined to fighting in the border areas.
Washington backed the Turkish government, because the PKK is a terrorist organization, therefore, would justify any action against them. However, under the condition that "such acts do not undermine regional stability." This means that included Turkey, the invasion by forces must, at least without the consent of the authorities in Baghdad and northern Iraqi Kurdish region. As a reward, Bush promised Turkish Prime Minister the exchange of intelligence information and "any assistance". After negotiations, the Prime Minister admitted that he was "happy" was.
Bush did not go into details of its concrete support for Ankara one. But Erdogan appeared to have expected all sorts. "I assume that I need not explain who we mean by the word 'enemy,'" he said on the outcome of the meeting.
In fact, this explanation would be superfluous. Because, shortly before Erdogan's visit to Washington, said U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, although the PKK had existed before the U.S. invasion of Iraq, Washington now carry the responsibility for everything done in this country. The U.S. confirmed: Iraq will serve as a refuge to any terrorist organization, nor the PKK.
way that does not mean that Americans move their troops in Iraq immediately in those provinces, in which to keep the armed PKK fighters hiding. Especially since it is the - in comparison to other regions - is quietest territory.
Something else is the exchange of intelligence information, economic sanctions against PKK supporters and the pressure on the Iraqi authorities to contribute to the struggle of Turkey against the Kurdish fighters.
also make it clear to the Americans: In the given situation they will be given a choice between two allies (Iraqi Kurds and Ankara) Turkey would prefer if the Kurds themselves do not create on the territory they control order.
Bush said Erdogan strong trump cards in the hand so that he can withstand the pressure within the country. The Prime Minister does not have to deploy troops immediately from Iraq and unleash a war that nobody needs. Above all, the Turks do not even need it. Now everything depends on whether Washington, Baghdad and the Iraqi Kurds to their promises, the terrorist activities of the PKK to put an end to redeem it.
You have to let Erdogan that he understood at high diplomatic art of maintaining the moment of crisis in relations with Iraq and the U.S., the partnership with both sides. Moreover, he has both in Washington and in Baghdad found support. Has announced the war and preserve peace - at least for now. In a fortunate combination of circumstances is a new all-out war in the region until the spring to wait.
The opinion of the author and do not necessarily represent those of RIA Novosti.
>> discussion
WASHINGTON 07 November (Marija Appakowa, RIA Novosti). Could George W. Bush to Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan of a military operation in northern Iraq against Kurdish fighters diverted?
That will be a mystery to the meeting the two leaders on Monday in Washington - most likely not. The main reason is not because Erdogan is in the given situation, a hostage of circumstances. Paradoxically Turkish Prime Minister himself is keen to resolve the situation without extreme measures such as the invasion of troops to Iraq. But if taking the terrorist attacks by the Kurdish Workers Party PKK in Turkey, no end, Erdogan may perhaps have no other choice but to give the signal to the military operation. For the time being but he has time. Among other things, thanks to his negotiations in the United States.
something for history: In October, the Turkish parliament the government a one-year mandate for an operation in the northern Iraqi Kurdish region, where troops have to fight the PKK holed. Meanwhile, the Turkish troops confined to fighting in the border areas.
Washington backed the Turkish government, because the PKK is a terrorist organization, therefore, would justify any action against them. However, under the condition that "such acts do not undermine regional stability." This means that included Turkey, the invasion by forces must, at least without the consent of the authorities in Baghdad and northern Iraqi Kurdish region. As a reward, Bush promised Turkish Prime Minister the exchange of intelligence information and "any assistance". After negotiations, the Prime Minister admitted that he was "happy" was.
Bush did not go into details of its concrete support for Ankara one. But Erdogan appeared to have expected all sorts. "I assume that I need not explain who we mean by the word 'enemy,'" he said on the outcome of the meeting.
In fact, this explanation would be superfluous. Because, shortly before Erdogan's visit to Washington, said U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, although the PKK had existed before the U.S. invasion of Iraq, Washington now carry the responsibility for everything done in this country. The U.S. confirmed: Iraq will serve as a refuge to any terrorist organization, nor the PKK.
way that does not mean that Americans move their troops in Iraq immediately in those provinces, in which to keep the armed PKK fighters hiding. Especially since it is the - in comparison to other regions - is quietest territory.
Something else is the exchange of intelligence information, economic sanctions against PKK supporters and the pressure on the Iraqi authorities to contribute to the struggle of Turkey against the Kurdish fighters.
also make it clear to the Americans: In the given situation they will be given a choice between two allies (Iraqi Kurds and Ankara) Turkey would prefer if the Kurds themselves do not create on the territory they control order.
Bush said Erdogan strong trump cards in the hand so that he can withstand the pressure within the country. The Prime Minister does not have to deploy troops immediately from Iraq and unleash a war that nobody needs. Above all, the Turks do not even need it. Now everything depends on whether Washington, Baghdad and the Iraqi Kurds to their promises, the terrorist activities of the PKK to put an end to redeem it.
You have to let Erdogan that he understood at high diplomatic art of maintaining the moment of crisis in relations with Iraq and the U.S., the partnership with both sides. Moreover, he has both in Washington and in Baghdad found support. Has announced the war and preserve peace - at least for now. In a fortunate combination of circumstances is a new all-out war in the region until the spring to wait.
The opinion of the author and do not necessarily represent those of RIA Novosti.
>> discussion
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